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Why can't the government divert HS2 money to a social house building programme ???
10:18 am

I wanted to share this letter from the Yorkshire Post with you all:

From: Dr Glyn Powell, Bakersfield Drive, Kellington.

WITH rapidly rising numbers of homelessness, Britain faces a catastrophic housing crisis. This Government is currently responsible for a ridiculously low level of new houses, with almost all being built for purchase.

What is needed is houses built by local councils for rent. Without action in this direction, the nation will face housing exploitation that will make the horrors of the 1950s and 60s Rachmanism pale into insignificance.

Due to people being unable to buy a house, many are compelled to rent in the private sector where most rents are extortionate. Furthermore, tenancy agreements are harsh and the condition of many rented properties leaves much to be desired.

There is an obvious need to redress these imbalances in the private rented sector by the introduction of fair rent tenancy agreements. However, I would be surprised if a Tory government introduced such legislation.

Instead of wasting billions on projects like HS2, this Government should divert the money to pay for a massive social house building programme.

When we finally leave the EU, there will be less pressure to house migrants from eastern Europe. Indeed, the policy of any decent government should always be to house indigenous homeless Britons before any EU migrants.


Whilst I don’t necessarily agree that tenancy agreements are harsh or that we need fair rent agreements, he makes a good point about HS2 don’t you think?…………………

12:21 pm
David Price
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Landlords should use the government specified tenancy agreement – all 50 pages – then there would be no room for any criticism https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/model-agreement-for-a-shorthold-assured-tenancy.

Saying private rents are extortionate is a sweeping generalisation, where is the justification for such a statement?  In view of Section 24, “we aint seen nothing yet”, rents will dramatically increase over the next four years.Cry

And leave HS2 alone, businessmen need a journey that is half an hour shorter even if it does break the government bank and devalue property on the route.Smile

If money is to be spent on railways then it would be better to reinstate some (not all) of the Beeching closures and sometime build new modest infrastructure to facilitate journeys.  London to Brighton via Uckfield springs to mind as does the old north Dartmoor route.

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Yep rail is the new roads!!

The problem is rail cannot be operated for a profit

But what it can do as part of strategic transport infrastructure is to ensure a near universal service to the UK for movement if people and goods.

There are now many parts of the country which used to be served by rail that were done away with by Beeching

At the time everyone was was enamoured with the car

Anyone could have seen that the car was a roadway to hell.

Only rail can provide for the efficient movement of people and goods.

For that to happen we need NATIONALiSATION!!

The branch lines and old routes need to he reopened and the public needs to accept that an effective railway will need subsidy by the taxpayer.

This is what Germany and France do.

Indeed so effective and efficient is the the German state railway that they are operating some of our railways

So it it OK for for another country’s nationalised rail industry to run our raikways , but not for our Govt to run our railways

The only reason the railways lost out in the Beeching cuts is they were forced to provide a universal service which the new transport firms did not have to do..

Consequently they were able to undercut the railways..

The railways should be nationalised and massively expanded to become the predominate way mist people travel

Fares need to be substantially reduced with the taxpayer making up the shortfall

An effective railway is vital for the good of the nation.

This requires state subsidy.

With cheaper fares there would not need to be the same concentration of people with the subsequent increased housing costs.

The UK needs to dilute it’s population and workplaces and facilitate that by a cheap, for the traveller, and effective rail infrastructure like they have in Germany and France.

Also one comprehensive and easy to understand ticketing system.

Introduce a workman’s ticket like there used to be in the 30’s

Encourage or force the feckless off benefits and into work with subsidised fares.

Cancel HS2 and just upgrade existing services etc.

Very few average workers will be able to afford HS2 tickets.

It will just be a businessman’s luxury express.

This we don’t need

We need mass cheap and affordable railways.

I would far rather my taxes were spent on subsidising the railways than the billions paid in welfare to keep the feckless on their sofas keeping up Jeremy Kykes viewing figures!!

So yes bring back the railways ore Beeching and revitalise dead areas of the UK.

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Would make more sense than spending billions just to save 6 minutes on a train journey.

10:43 am
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Because without it, it would make politicians traveling from the north to Westminster late for lunch Cool

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Paul Routledge said
Because without it, it would make politicians travelling from the north to Westminster late for lunch Cool

You missed out the word ‘subsidised’ Paul.

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