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Hackney MP Diane Abbott Calls For Rent Controls
11/12/2014
3:15 pm
Mary Latham
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MP for Hackney and future Mayoral candidate Diane Abbott has called for rent controls in a joint campaign with Generation Rent.

Monthly rents would be no more than 50% of the local annual council tax bill, so a family living in a two-bed flat in Camberwell would have a council tax banding of B (£942) and a rent of £1,200 per month, so their rent cap would be £471. The extra charge to a landlord if they chose not to apply a cap would be £364. The extra charge would go to the Mayor of London to pay for new social housing.

Source http://www.londonist.com/

This would be an appalling misuse of Council Tax collection which is meant to cover the cost of services provided to residents by the council. NOT TO BE A BACKDOOR FINE/PENALITY for landlords who cannot make renting stack up on the proposed rents.  Do these people realise that landlords are in business to make money and if they cannot make a profit they will not remain in the business - like any other business?  Clearly not and I have not seen the Plan B to house those who join the many homeless people who cannot get social housing

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11/12/2014
5:50 pm
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Mary you ask,

Do these people realise that landlords are in business to make money and if they cannot make a profit they will not remain in the business - like any other business? - 

No they are Councillors and MP's and have probably never earned a honest commercially earned quid in their lives they think money grows on the tax payer tree. If you want more you just pick more, easy!. I love listening to these hair brained ideas from privately educated then straight into politics folk that are so experienced in life they can direct us all on what is best and how run our lives blah blah blah blah.

Diane Abbott entrepreneur and portfolio landlord "NOPE"

Diane Abbott  Diane was born in London in 1953. She attended the grammar school Harrow County and then went on to Newnham College Cambridge where she obtained a Masters degree in history.

When she left Cambridge University Diane joined Government as a Home Office Civil Servant. She went on to work for the lobby group the National Council for Civil Liberties, then she became a journalist. She worked extensively as a freelancer and she went on to work as a reporter for the breakfast television company TV-AM and Thames Television. And she also worked as a public relations consultant for various public sector clients.

Diane is founder of the London Schools and the Black Child initiative, which aims to raise educational achievement levels amongst Black children. She hosts an annual conference for educators, children and their parents and an annual academic awards ceremony.

In 2008 Diane was awarded the Spectator/Threadneedle Speech of the Year Award and a Human Rights Award from Liberty.

In May 2010 Diane was re-elected in her constituency of Hackney North and Stoke Newington, and doubled her majority on an increased turn-out. In June 2010, she made the ballot for the Labour leadership contest and took part in the summer long campaign to elect the next Labour leader. Although her campaign did not yield the leadership position, she was nonetheless propelled to to the front benches as shadow Public Health Minister.  

Did anyone read the clip above about Ms Abbott being on the front line as a landlord or that she was a suffering tenant, no because it was not there she seems to be a  lefftie ladder climbing career politician and if that is what you see to, then what makes Ms Abbott such a expert on the PRS or the content and laws therein to suggest that she should even be allowed to comment on what we should charge for our properties.

Time to get those in the know to make the rules as to our future of the PRS and not those who just like to stick their noses in I say Laugh

11/12/2014
6:05 pm
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If they want landlords to pay to build social housing they can ring fence the taxes we pay on our rent and when we sell an investment property - that makes good sense to me.

Silly me I used that word "sense"  At least I did not pretend that sense is common

If I wanted to rid the UK of the PRS, as is obviously the intention, I would put us out of business by building so many social homes that that we could not find tenants. Those who stayed in the business would be forced to reduce rents and the others would sell up. They could also have put covenants into the purchase of social housing under Right to Buy to say that they could never be sold to a landlord - they could still do this.

As you said Paul academia followed by non-commercial business experience hardly qualifies a person to make a good business decision never mind run a country.

 

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11/12/2014
7:31 pm
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Mary considering the state of the country and the problems we suffer year on year  at the hands of these over educated, over paid under worked career politician buffoons it does not surprise me the people of this nation are opting for a straight talking beer swilling newbie. The truth is there is far more common sense coming out of our community business elders in a local boozer than you will ever get from that lot in Westminster.

Tell Abbott that we are going to halve her wages to build new social housing and see what she says then Laugh

11/12/2014
11:37 pm
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I actually agree with Ms Abbott there should be mass council house building with NO RTB facility.

Like her I would like to see affordable housing for everyone.

NOT everyone can buy a property because lenders are not prepared to lend the amounts required to certain people.

If 1 million properties were built in the next 5 years the 1 million EU migrants that will have arrived in 5 years time will need those properties.

With effectively UNCONTROLLED mass immigration it is just impossible for the private sector to build what is required.

Only the state can provision the capital required for mass accommodation.

But even then the state could NOT build enough for mass uncontrolled immigrants.

Good quality affordable rental accommodation is vital for the infrastructure of the country.

This then assists the employability of the UK workforce.

Housing costs are a major constraint on the easy movement of labour.

Only council accommodation can facilitate this.

Just like the state invests in roads and railways to move things around so must be the case with accommodation.

We are a low wage economy and this needs to be recognised.

PR properties are becoming unaffordable.

The PRS has NO obligation to house people affordably.

Nobody has the right to expect the PRS to provide such.

Govt just has to accept that state provision of affordable rental accommodation is required.

ONLY the state can manage this.

In Communist countries everyone had accommodation that was affordable

It may not have been the greatest;  but it was made available.

We need a flexible workforce which can ONLY be managed by making it affordable for them to move around.

The PRS is NOT the solution!!

12/12/2014
9:18 am
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When she left Cambridge University Diane joined Government as a Home Office Civil Servant. She went on to work for the lobby group the National Council for Civil Liberties, then she became a journalist. She worked extensively as a freelancer and she went on to work as a reporter for the breakfast television company TV-AM and Thames Television. And she also worked as a public relations consultant for various public sector clients.

 

Of course, Landlords are not allowed to have liberties of any kind . We have to be controlled, pressured & threatened into running our businesses the way that every Tom **** ******* **** **** ******** ******* ***** **** **** **** ***** ******* ********* ******** *** **** ****** ********** ************ **** *********** ************* and Harry thinks we should run it 

Imagine if there was a cap by law stating how much restaurants can charge for their meals. We would all be eating in the high class restaurants at fish and chip prices   

12/12/2014
9:33 am
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Paul Barrett said:

PR properties are becoming unaffordable.

The PRS has NO obligation to house people affordably.

I agree with this comment. I would love to provide cheaper good quality accommodation because i can see that if my tenants could afford the rent and utility bills easier, they might spend the excess money on looking after my property.

I have council tenant relatives who pay a low rent and have paid for kitchens , new bathrooms and considerable work done on their council houses because they have been living there all their lives and feel secure.

I think its something to do with treating people like ten cow people.  Smile

LL do not have the luxury of being able to dibble into the tax payers purse to fund our businesses.

We have to pay exorbitant deposits and fees to the mortgage companies and then we have to refurbish when a bad tenants moves out. This is one of the many reasons why rents are high.   

12/12/2014
11:26 am
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Rent control is COMMUNISM.

The free market is CAPITALISM.

Let Sir Terry Wogan explain it - > http://www.mostpeoplesavemoney.co.uk

 

12/12/2014
12:14 pm
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Spot on Phil and there is the difference between Lefttie Loonies and Tightie RightiesLaugh If we can put in rent controls we should also profit fix all the other shops profits. every shop, utilities and financial institution can only work on a set profit margins.. Sounds OK cheap shirts and beer all around Laugh

13/12/2014
11:31 am
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Hmmm 

If we are going to get rent control what about utility bill control? ! 

I am convinced that this problem is pushing tenants into debt

I am finding high utility bills are forcing my younger tenants to choose between paying the rent or Utiility bills. This year i have had 3 go back home to live with family . I am finding more and more tenants moving out of self contained  flats to move into bill inclusive rooms.  I have also been a victim twice to tenants who move all the contents of their flats into my HMO room,  the garage and out houses . So its a question i ask all applicant room seekers in my HMO now. How much baggage have you got? 

You never know, they might divulge their emotional baggage to me as well. LOL

15/12/2014
2:09 pm
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Amy,

Fuel prices. We are reaping the small reward from lower oil insomuch as the price has nearly halved 50% and although we have seen a reduction at the pumps of 20% (clearly not comparable) we have seen no reductions in any other areas like public transport, food where delivery is cheaper, utilities, etc. This reduction in oil, if passed on to the consumer, could really kick start the economy in everyway as consumers have more to spend on retail rather than just necessities. Unfortunately I fear that the cooks at the top will be skimming the gravy off before It gets poured over us the vegetables.

What is sad is I think they will start to reduce production to stabilise the price as pressure from governments who are losing billions in tax revenues starts to bear down upon the oil companies, so we will never see the real rewards as once that happens prices will rise immediately as demand grows.

 

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16/12/2014
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I have a much better idea, let's make the annual Council Tax twice the monthly rent.  The relationship between Council Tax and rent would then be exactly as Diane Abbott wanted it to be, a ratio of six to one, and the council would get a much bigger income.

The council would then have a much more money to deal with the deluge of homeless ex tenants.

One daft idea deserves another! Laugh

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