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My Landlords a A~##..?e
07/11/2011
3:00 pm
Paul Routledge
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Why good tenants want their landlords to join us…

I have had a really nice guy in my office this morning who has just left his property today and almost abandoned it because, as he says, “my landlord is an arse”.  Apparently this guy has been out of treatment for alcohol and drug abuse for over 3 years and has stayed clean and just started work again. He says that as the reductions of LHA in the area has started to put pressure on many landlords and his current landlord is starting to fill up the HMO of 7 studio flats up with whomever he can, as long as they have the money, and not caring at all what their previous history may be.

According to his landlord, when he confronted him about filling up the building with dross, his landlord said that he can’t reduce the rent because of his expenses and the only ones that have the money at the moment are LHA claimants who are in desperate need of housing and can’t get anywhere with no deposit etc.  The landlord apparently almost intimated that he was happy if he got their LHA and topped it up with a bit of extra earning from contraband or the extra few quid selling drugs. So this weekend this guy’s door was kicked in and his worldly hard worked for possessions were all stolen.

We were told his story as he wanted to be honest about his predicament and it also gave us the opportunity to understand his quandary and after a few more checks and paperwork confirmation on current claims etc. we told him he could have a flat with conditions such as making up the deposit and getting his mother to be guarantor.  We also made him fully aware that his details will be put on LandlordReferencing.co.uk and if he turns out to be a bad-un he will struggle to get another flat with a decent Landlord or Letting Agent in Weston or anywhere else if they are a member of us. So be warned!!

You know not much makes me smile these days but it was great to hear him say “Too right guvnor!  Hey does that mean that you would make sure that I don’t get a crack head next to me”.  Yes it does I was really pleased to reply.

This is exactly why I believe that local network tenant referencing between Landlords and letting Agents does make a difference, because when you all add to and draw from a communal pool of information, you can only benefit from one another’s experiences, be it either losses or gains.

What do you think?

 

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08/11/2011
2:46 am
PaulBarrett
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Perhaps there should be some sort of linkage of LRS with Shelter on the basis that LRS

only wants decent tenants;  which is surely what Shelter wants!!!?

Therefore members of LRS would be as near as guaranteed to be a responsible landlord.

Perhaps Shelter could accredit landlords who belong to LRS as the best type of landlord to have.

This to the extent that tenants will wish their landlord to be a member of LRS!!?

08/11/2011
8:09 am
Paul Routledge
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Hi Paul,

I contacted shelter and invited them to work with us last week as I believe they may be able to benefit from our new invitation promotion, The promotion which we are doing includes good tenants letting their landlord know about us to strengthen the network so they don’t have a bad neighbour in their area.

I am waiting to hear from them so will post their reply on when I hear, but  suffices to say I agree with you, I think that we need to work together with tenants and try and break this,  them and us attitude,  which can make a prickly start to any tenancy.

We need to focus on making letting better for both landlords and tenants and that is why I also believe that to stop anti-social behaviour by lifestyle referencing is a great start.

 

Paul R

20/12/2011
2:16 pm
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Shelter want to elininate rogue landlords and LRS want to remove bad tenants for the landlords who sign up to them.

Where will they go?

21/12/2011
10:08 am
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Hi Sharon,

As a landlord of over 125 tenants of which most are fantastic and in return for their decency I repay them by being a great landlord in keeping their homes safe, secure, warm and habitable 24/7= 365.

I can assure you that my good tenants do not wish to live next to problem neighbours as much as I don't want them as tenants, so I think I can speak for myself and my good tenants in saying we don't care where they go as long as it is not stealing, damaging, threatening, dealing drugs getting drunk and partying 24/7 next to us. Now some might think that’s uncaring at such a festive time of year, but why should we all be made to feel guilty all the time because others in our society can’t behave.

I think the place they should go is to a new college set up by shelter where shelter can teach these habitually bad behaved tenants how to be decent and conduct themselves in a moral and respectful and honest way to others.

They would then be allowed homes with decent landlords and we would all be happy ever after?.

Most bad landlords can only operate with tenants who have themselves had problems in the past and subsequently have nowhere else to go and that is generally because of their past.  

I am not suggesting that all tenants that have a bad landlord are bad tenants but I know around here we have several "bad landlords" and their properties are bulging at the seam with everyone else’s outcasts, yet those outcast will still come into our office asking us for a flat because their landlord is an A##se H##le. And the first thing we need to do is to ask them to leave the can of special brew and the smoking **** ******* **** **** ******** ******* ***** **** **** **** ***** ******* ********* ******** *** **** ****** ********** ************ **** *********** ************* outside before they come in.

 

This may sound a bit biblical at this time of year but I do believe when it comes to landlords and tenants alike "We do reap what we sow"...

 

21/12/2011
2:21 pm
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Hi Paul 🙂
My question as to 'where would these tenants go?' was a bit tongue in cheek but I like your answer!

21/12/2011
5:41 pm
Vale-Estates
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The thing about certain people in today's society is they feel bad tenants/neighbours/Citizens just need a chance and shouldn't be victimised themselves. So what do they do when these people DO get evicted? They just move them on somewhere else without any consequences, sometimes into a better property.

 

Paul is absolutely right, there should be some sort of education/punishment for their crimes, and yes they are crimes. It's not just noise and unsavoury visitors that affect good people, it's the bullying, intimidation and threats that come part & parcel with a lot of bad neighbours. 

They need to be educated, not just moved to another property. Isn't that how "ghettos" are created?

22/12/2011
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Sharon said:

Hi Paul 🙂
My question as to 'where would these tenants go?' was a bit tongue in cheek but I like your answer!

Ha Ha well it certainly fired me up to answer you. I just think it's time people were made to answer for their behaviour in this country rather than be allowed to use it as a weapon to make the rest of us feel guilty.

To many do gooders all going ah! its not their fault, we should be teaching our kids that whatever they do as an action is their fault and only they are to blame for their actions, maybe then just maybe they will stop getting the attention they crave and stop doing it?Yell

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