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Homeless exodus from London
16/01/2012
6:46 pm
Sharon Carmichael
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I just wondered if anyone else had encountered what I did today - two homeless guys came into my office asking for a flat (with no money of course).  They had been on the streets in my town for the past couple of nights and it was meant to be below freezing tonight - the reason they were in my neck of the woods was that London is getting shot of all of its homeless people because of the Olympics and the homeless are being given travel vouchers to leave and go elsewhere - has anyone else heard of this or had any in their office?

16/01/2012
7:44 pm
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Hi Sharon,

I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has had the same happen to them. It would make the Nationals if it is true mind you I am just watching BBC 1 and they say that there will be a mass exodus from London as benefits are cut.

I just hope that all landlords and agents have the foresight to join us so we can work together to make sure that along with the good tenants we can keep out the bad ones from our communities.

17/01/2012
12:35 am
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As well as the 'homeless' what about all the 25-35 year olds that are currently in 1 bedroom properties on LHA.

In April 2012 they will be reduced to a LHA shared room rate which be insufficient  for a 1 bedroom property.

There will be massive demand for rooms when this comes in unless LL reduce the rent to the single room LHA rate.

I can't see many doing that.

Also 1 of the reasons you have homeless in London is because they have come here from housing in their area on the basis that London's  streets are 'paved with gold';  only to find they are not.

They should go back to where they come  from.

Mostly they are from up north.

They should return there as there is loads of cheap accommodation oop North!

17/01/2012
2:43 am
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Hi Paul,

I understand why the government needs to do what they are doing and I agree with measures to curb our public spending on those who don't like graft lad!,  but herding people into cheaper areas away from their original homes because they cant find work is tantamount to ethnic cleansing, Isn't it?. I truly think the only thing that this benefit change will do en masse is to create over crowded ghettos which will give rise to the bad landlords and  again undo all the work we have all done to clear up the industry in one foul swoop.

 

With the constant and rising problems in this Country of European, Far Eastern and West Indian drug and gang cartels how long will it take before we start seeing the gangsters running sectioned areas of multi occupied properties bursting at the seams with lessor mortals. So I say Mr Cameron "don't take a sledge hammer to crack a nut" think again on the 25 to 35 benefit changes otherwise I fear it may lead to real social problems in this Country and Rackman will return to our shores with a vengeance.

17/01/2012
4:42 am
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If you think that people who are working can only live in certain areas; they are effectively cleansed into areas they can afford.

This the reason you don't find a cleaner at a bank residing in the same area as a banker.

So why shoud a LHA claimant on 'LHA wages ' be able to live in an area where a normal worker cannot afford.

No I am all for shipping them off to areas that they can afford.

The way they can then get to better areas is to GET a job which may be enough for them to move to a better area.

These are the issues that any normal person with a job has to cope with.

Why should benefit claimants not have to face up to the economic realities of their now reduced benefit levels.

Article 4 will constrain the amount of multi-occupancy properties; so unlikely there will be ghettoes.

If it does occur I am not bothered, keep the LHA claimants away from good areas.

They have no right to be housed in a good area; the obligation is just to be housed.

17/01/2012
8:58 am
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Hi Paul,

As I say I agree that LHA claimants should not be continuously housed in good areas at the expense of us the hard working public, but I think there are lots of people who are claiming LHA because of the economy and not because they dont want to work and therefore I am not convinced it is right to upheave them and there families from the security they have because of the last goverments crap handling of the ecomomy.

 

There are clearly 2 types of LHA claimant and they should be judged according to their needs and what they have contibuted to our society in the past. Those that have never contributed get nothing and those who have contributed but are in a hole at the moment should be allowed time to get back up.

UnfortunatelyI think to punch a man when he is down is just bullying and demoralising, I do not see why we need to tar everyone with the same brush. 

17/01/2012
9:09 am
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Hi Paul's,

 

Saw this article this morning on a twitter link 

http://www.landlordtoday.co.uk.....HA-tenants

Almost nine out of ten (87%) landlords who accept housing benefit tenants have had problems with rent not being paid on time, with one in ten (11%) saying they have had tenants who stopped paying their rent altogether.

That's epidemic I wonder if they always tell their landlord or agent about their last problems Laugh I doubt it and I doubt whether there landlords have got a judgement against them.

So it seems the only way we can get protection is through this web site and talk to one another quite frankly if my fellow landlord friends don't join I will visit them in the night Wink especially if I take one of their problems because they could not be bothered to let me know through Pauls system.

17/01/2012
1:20 pm
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Hi Sal,

Ha Ha never thought of that as a way of getting new members.

What can I say we tweet, we advertise, we blog, we face book, we seminar, we link in on linked in, we keep it free and are here every day. So those that don't join us after that either still don't know about us or just don't care who they take.

As far as agents not becoming members is concerned with all the fast movement of tenants and the alerts we send out daily some one is taking these tenants and it must be a non member or a unwitting landlord.

Thanks for the upload today and pass the word Smile

Paul 

17/01/2012
1:30 pm
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Paul Routledge said:

As far as agents not becoming members is concerned with all the fast movement of tenants and the alerts we send out daily some one is taking these tenants and it must be a non member or a unwitting landlord.
Thanks for the upload today and pass the word Smile

Paul 

Fear not young man - we are here and using your system! 🙂

Mark A Reynolds

Pierce & Co Residential Letting Agents

http://www.pierceandco.co.uk

01296 20 1234

17/01/2012
2:43 pm
Paul Routledge
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Maybe that's why you are such rising stars in the letting world then, insight & foresight bring success. 

As the old saying goes if you watch a band wagon go by "YOU AIN'T ON IT" to many complacent Agents who think their Landlords don't know what's going on and when it's to late they cant understand that their business never kept up.

Lifestyle network tenant referencing is getting bigger and those who are not doing it are not in the loop and WILL end up with the bad tenants. Simples!! Laugh

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